Monday, September 22, 2008

Remembering the 2006 trade frenzy

Below is the chronological chain of events over the 2006 SJJL baseball season that lead to my failure of dealing Hanley Ramirez yet storming back to take the title from Woodhouse. July 17 and Aug 10 were particularly active days….

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:30 pm
To Christian Anderson
Subject what a deal
talk about an ugly trade thus far... valverde stinking it up and ready
to lose his job, double d's getting rocked, edmonds out with a new
injury and mri pending, at least harang still looks decent for you
despite the cinci offense going in the crapper lately.... well done! a
couple of geniuses we are....


From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 17, 2006 11:50 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
hey chris....i'm not sure if i'm shopping hanley or not...but powell's
offered buerle for hanley straight up...what's your opinion on that,
and what would you be willing to offer?

At 01:43 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:
hey craig...i've been offered hanley for buehrle from powell....not
sure if i want to part with hanley or not, but what's your opinion on
the offer?

Craig Coovert wrote:
where was Buerhle rated in Powell's top 10? Buerhle has been pretty
bad over the last month too... that's tough though, because you could definately use a starter...

Albaugh wrote:
he was beebly's #7....yes, if buehrle can pick it up in the second
half it'd be really nice to have another stud pitcher...but i'd also be
giving up runs and sbs....i don't know, it's kind of a tough call.

*/Andrew Albaugh /* wrote to Hanley Sent Monday, July 17, 2006:
hey mr. clayton....any of your top players available? let me know if you're shopping anyone...berkman, oswalt, etc...

Ryan Hanley wrote:
I would consider moving Oswalt, who can you afford to part with, Mr. First Place?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 17, 2006 3:30 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
what are you looking for? my best keeper value guys would be guys like hanley and kinsler. take a look at my team and let me know if anything comes to mind....

**In response to BBP’s earlier Hanley Ramirez inquiry**
From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 17, 2006 3:30 pm
To Bryan Powell
Subject Re: Hanley Ramirez
yes, there's interest....i'm just thinking...

Bryan Powell wrote:

Any interest in trading Hanley Ramirez for a starting pitcher?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 17, 2006 11:58 pm
To Christian Anderson
Subject Re: Minor league lottery

finally decided on parting with Tex, eh? that's a tough call, but this
year he just isn't looking like himself, and if you're looking to make a
run this year, pierre, dunn, et al, will definitely help your cause...at
getting second place that is, cuz Baller isn't giving up the top spot
anytime soon ;)

you should post another "year ago" message...because it is still
remarkable that an 8th and 12th place team from last year are still
squarely in the 1-2 spots.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:53 am
To Chris Coovert
chris....are you interested in dealing sheets?

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Hey Andy,
>
>Sorry I've been so unresponsive. First, I think Butler
>is a solid pick. I had expected you to take Kendrick
>but you kind of got screwed on that.
>
>Anyway, I am willing to trade Sheets. But, I'm not
>sure if we would value him the same.
>
>At this point, I would rate my starters:
>
>Penny, highest trade value because he is a good keeper
>value.
>
>Sheets. Borderline keeper as a top five guy if he is
>healthy
>
>Meyers: little keeper value but could help this year
>
>then I also have Meche and Williams who could really
>help someone.
>
>I will trade any of these guys.
>
>I'm not sure that I would trade Penny straight up for
>Ramirez, but I'd have to think about it.
>
>I would do Sheets for Ramirez straight up. I also
>might consider a pick plus Kinsler deal, but I need to
>more research on Kinsler.
>
>I would do any of the rest for picks or for Kinsler
>plus picks.
>
>I'm also trying to decide if I have interest in Cole
>Hamels or not. Right now I'm thinking no..but I'm
>watching him.
>
>Anyway, that's where I'm at. For a team with terrible
>pitching numbers, I actually have a suprising number
>of guys who could help someone.
>
>Chris

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:35 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
gotcha on all accounts.... let's try and work something out here before
too long. I feel like either my team is really just over performing and
peaking right now, or I've got a real legit shot at winning this and one
more solid starter could put me over the top. Don't deal Penny or
Sheets without talking to me first, if you happen to get any offers. If
we do something that involves hanley or kinsler, how would you feel
about including omar one way or another to replace my lost mid infielder?

Chris Coovert wrote:
>I would assume that you would get Omar or Iguchi as
>part of any deal involving a middle infielder.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:01 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
think about hanley and a starter for penny and iguchi...it seems pretty
fair to me, especially at this point as hanley's put in some serious
numbers lately. think it over and let me know what you think...
another thought i just had, is if we want to do something that involves
hanley, hamels, another starter for penny, iguchi, and a lower starter
like meche, i'd be interested in that. do your research on hamels, but
he's got great stuff and is supposed to be one of the top prospects this
year, he's just had rough patch a month or so ago, but lately he's
pitched pretty well. i don't see him lighting the world on fire the
rest of this year, but he could very well have some serious value next
year. think that over as well...

Ryan Hanley wrote:
Which players are untouchable on your team? Would you be interested in Oswalt and Podsednik for Ichiro let's say or something similar?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:46 am
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
untouchables at this moment are beltran, howard, ichiro, jones, bj ryan, and probably schilling....basically all the studs on my team. what are your thoughts on someone lower like zito? do you have any interest in nathan?

Chris Coovert wrote:
>I'll think about it. For the most part, with the
>possible exception of Hamels, I doubt any starter you
>would give me in return would be a keeper, so that guy
>really wouln't have value to me. And, I'm not sure
>that Hamels is really going to be worth a 15th pick
>next year either. Young pitching is really
>unpredictable.
>
>Anyway, I'll consider it. I'm just thinking about
>resource allocation. I have Reyes and Upton already,
>so it might not make sense for me to trade my one
>keeper pitcher for a third fast shortstop.
>
>You talking to Hanley about Oswalt? What does he want?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:31 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
so far he's offered oswalt and pods for ichiro...although we have't
really talked seriously.

Ryan Hanley wrote:
Maybe in the next few weeks. I want to see if Otsuka helps me in the
saves category some first before I make a move like that. Zito's been my best pitcher lately.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:15 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
any more ideas for oswalt? i most likely wouldn't keep him, so i'm not
sure i can give up a whole lot for him...but if you're interested in
guys that have at least some keeper value, like hanley, kinsler, hamels, let me know.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:24 pm
To Craig Coovert
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
can i pick your brain again? i'm trying to pry penny away from your
brother, but it's not looking so good right now, but i think i could get
sheets for hanley, or maybe kinsler and pick....if i can't get penny i
may take a chance on sheets, it's about the best pitching deal i've been able to come up with at this point. injured pitchers just scare me...

Craig Coovert wrote:
I might be interested in dealing either Burnett or Willis for Ramirez
if you're interested...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:38 pm
To Craig Coovert
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
hmm...i'll think about it....

Andrew Albaugh to Chris Coovert wrote:
what were you thinking in terms of a kinsler and a pick for sheets?

Chris Coovert wrote:

>This is such a hard one...because we are talking about
>a guy who when he is healthy is a top 30 player, but
>hasn't been healthy much lately.
>
>I'm still trying to decide if Kinsler is keeper as a
>15th round pick too...it's borderline.
>
>Anyway, if you want sheets we might have to work some
>sort of conditional thing out based on how well he
>pitches or something.
>
>Sorry I've been so slow to repond to emails.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:26 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: Minor league lottery
i realize your work schedule is pretty packed this time of year ;)

well, let me know what you're thinking....i'd like to work something out
for either sheets or penny...and penny is obviously my first choice
because i could keep him, if i have sheets i really doubt i'd keep him,
i'd have to choose between him, jones, ichiro or beltran. i agree with
you on kinsler, if i don't end up dealing him this year i'd consider
keeping him, but its a toss up at this point. if i end up keeping
hanley i'd keep him for sure, but if i'm going to pull this out this
year i need some consistent pitching...anyhow, let's keep the talks open and see if we can't get something worked out at some point.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:28 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject pitchers
ok...let's try and get something worked out. i think you've had enough time to do whatever research you want to do on kinsler, hamels, etc. so what is that you want? i will throw something out there and let me know what you think. i'll give you hanley and a pick upgrade for sheets, woody and iguchi. unless you're interested in dealing penny for hanley, which it doesn't sound like. if you want to deal sheets i would need some sort of a safety net where if he goes back on the DL i'd get a good round upgrade, and of course you'd still have hanley. i'd also trade/drop someone like marquis and rondell white....

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Hey Andy,
>
>Let me look at the pick situation and get back to you
>right away. I just realized I might have a slight
>issue with a keeper/pick I traded with Woodhouse and I
>need to look at my keepers and make sure I don't trade
>away the wrong picks.
>
>I think I will probably make this trade, but in
>fairness to Morten who also asked about Sheets, I want
>to ask him what he's willing to do.
>
>You are right about Penny. I just haven't been able to
>convince myself to deal him. I just think it will be
>nice to have one keeper starting pitcher. I'd probably
>deal him for a trade that got me an extra pick in
>round 4 or 5.
On 27 Jul 2006 10:50:10 -0700
Hi Tracy, Would you be willing to trade any of lackey, halladay, or wagner? I'm not sure what your plans are as far as keeping 3 of your top 5, but if Halladay or Wagner are not, you could always trade one now for something. I'm not sure what you'd want from me, the best keeper value guys I've got right now are Hanley Ramirez, Ian Kinsler, and possibly Cole Hamels if he starts pitching like the super-prospect he's supposed to be, and I've got the rights to Billy Butler in my minor league spot. I'm also very willing to trade draft picks if you're interestd in that. Anyhow, let me know if you're interested and we can start brainstorming and seeing if we can come up with something. Thanks, Andy

Tracy wrote:
I'm in the mindset--that I would be willing to trade anything. JUST FYI-- Troy Glaus has SS eligible now

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:50 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: pitchers
sounds good, i'm also discussing a few things with tracy, so i'll see if
that has any life to it or not...












On 7/27/06, Andrew Albaugh wrote:
Tracy,
Do you have any interest in aquring Andruw Jones? I was thinking about
something big like Jones and a 10th round pick for Tejada, Lackey and an
18th round pick. Or something smaller like Hanley Ramirez for
Halladay. He was taken in the 13th round, so that equals a 22nd rounder
next year, so you'd be losing your 18th when you keep him. Or, what
else? I'm open to ideas...

Tracy wrote:
How about Tejada, Lackey, Glaus for Hanley Ramirez and 10th round

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, July 28, 2006 10:01 am
To Tracy Johnson
Subject Re: {SPU Tagged Spam?} Y! Sports: lackey, halladay, wagner
that sounds pretty good...i think a 10/15 would make more sense for this deal...does that sound good?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, July 28, 2006 10:05 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: pitchers
i just got an amazing offer from tracy involving hanley (ramirez, not
mr. brown) so it looks like i may have to pull all hanley offers off the
table. but, if you want to deal sheets involving someone and picks, or
just picks, conditional on health, then let me know. if you really want
hanley send me something really good soon or else he's going to the
calvinists...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>I'm looking for a 4th round pick or so with a 10th
>going back for Sheets.
>
>Guys like Meche/Williams would obviously take less.
>
>I'm also still mildly interested in Kinsler...I need
>to see if some other stuff falls into place though.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, July 28, 2006 11:27 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: pitchers
he offered it, not me, but i can't turn it down...tejada, glaus, lackey
and his 15th(or18th) for hanley and my tenth... you want a 4th
rounder? i may be willing to do that....is mort biting? just let me
know before the final trigger on sheets is pulled...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>I still can't believe Tracy did that...
>
>Anyway, is Erin coming to dinner here on Thursday? If
>so, if you are going to be hanging with the kids, I
>was wondering if Rylan and I could come over and hang
>out with you guys. I want to get him out of the house,
>and I thought he would enjoy playing with the twins.
>
>Let me know about Sheets.
>
>Chris

On 7/30/06, Andrew Albaugh wrote:
ok....obviously the trade was lopsided. But I still feel that there was
some sort of an agreement between Tracy and I, whether it was unbalanced
or not. Is there a way that we can even out the trade? I'm not really
interested in Glaus, it would seem more balanced if we just elimiated
Glaus and Nixon from the equation. Does that sound more fair? If that
works, CA can you push the trade through so it's on the same timeline as
the original deal?

Tracy Johnson wrote:
You need to give me a higher pick.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 10:29 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: pitchers
we're actually headed to westport for a week starting on Wed, so no Erin won't be going to dinner...but it sounded like a good plan nonetheless, next time Kristin hosts we should plan on it. Are you going to be around and willing to run my team for me while I'm gone? I'll have no internet access and need to have someone set rosters for me. I'll have cell phone coverage so if anything important comes up you could call me....like if anyone else offers me half their roster for a draft pick and a future stud ss....I knew it would cause quite the uproar, but how do you not say..."uhh yeah, Tracy, that sounds good to me".




On 7/31/06, Andrew Albaugh wrote:
another question....are you considering keeping Lackey if you don't
trade him? And are you considering keeping Halladay? I am interested
in either one, I just need a solid pitcher for the stretch run. If we
did a deal that included Tejada and Lackey what kind of picks are you
thinking?

Tracy wrote:
I will keep Lackey and Halladay if I don't trade them.
I trade Tejada straight up for Ramirez right now.
As far as picks--they have to be high.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 10:36 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: pitchers
another thing...what's your thoughts on a fair pick swap with Tracy for
Tejada and Lackey for Hanley?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 10:36 am
To Ryan Hanley
Subject oswalt
you still interested in dealing oswalt? just curious....


From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 11:03 am
To Tracy Johnson
Subject Re: trade
ok...thanks for the info, that helps. Let me get back to you and we'll
get something figured out....

Ryan Hanley wrote:
> Possibly. What did you have in mind?
>
> Too bad the league vetoed that trade you had with Tracy, I never voted
> actually. I thought you got the better end of the deal, but if the Gay
> Apples accepted it, that's his problem.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 11:17 am
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: oswalt
he's the numbnuts that offered the damn thing....i was like "how about
something like jones or something for tejada and halladay, and some
picks? what's your thoughts on hanley ramirez?" and then he fires back
"i'll do tejada, glaus, lackey and an 18th for hanley and your
tenth".....umm, hell ya, where do i effin sign up? anyhow, we may still
work something out....
back to oswalt, i'll have a shitload of top five guys if i end up
getting tejada, so, are you interested in any of my top five guys? do
you have any closers available? do you like the thought of keeping
nathan? jones is a possibility, maybe ichiro and/or beltran if there's
some compensation. i'll see what happens with the GA which would impact
what i'd want to do with oswalt...but think about something big
involving my top fives...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 12:07 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: pitchers
sorry about all the emails...i just remembered that if i keep howard
(duh) i won't have picks in rounds 1-4, so i could offer a fifth for
sheets....just to keep you in the loop, i might do a deal that's
straight up hanley for tejada, if that's the case, plus a deal for
sheets i'd have a crapload of top fives....i may be able to deal one of
them to the real hanley for oswalt, but then i'll still have too many
top fives....do you have any interest in jones, ichiro, etc?

Chris Coovert wrote:
>The fifth is the best offer so far.
>
>I'd have to think about taking on another top five.
>
>I can watch your team, although I"m already doing
>Craig's team this wee as well. Still, send me your
>info and I'll keep an eye on it.
>
>BTW: I don't blame you for accepting the trade. I just
>felt like Lackey was being way undervalued in that
>deal.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 3:34 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject hanley/lugo
i see what you're getting at with the trade you proposed, but i'm still
trying to work something out with tracy that involves tejada. tejada
would be a nice boost this year, plus i'd most likely keep him next
year...also, what's the story with lugo once kent comes off the dl?
that's a bit of a question at this point... speaking of closers, do you
have any interest in nathan? he's a top five guy that i'm not going to
keep, but if you want him let me know, i'm trying to see if i can get a
2 for 1 with him....

on a side note, how are things going with Lauren?

Michael Gintz wrote:

> Lauren is great, happy (most of the time), and very healthy, so that
> is all good (except for the interrupted sleep).
>
> My team is hitting the crapper. Lieber gave up nine runs today, and I
> think I'm putting up the flag. I have Rivera as a #6 (#4 for next
> year), and I would probably rather keep him there than trade for
> Nathan as a top 3 pick for next year, unless there was something else
> of value going on.
>
> In my opinion, you need saves. I know you have the LA guy, and that
> will provide a boost, but if you get more saves that Woodhouse, that
> means about five more points for you and at least one less for him (I
> don't think either of you will catch CA), and those 5/6 points will be
> huge down the stretch. If it is me or someone else, you will find that
> trading for saves earlier makes a bigger impact than late, and it is
> better to get multiple, because a guy who leads in saves one month is
> unlikely to repeat the next month. Strength in numbers.
>
> There is no way they will bench Lugo. He has been an animal since
> coming off the DL, and I would guess they move Kent to 3rd (where he
> has played in the past), or maybe move Garciaparra back there and Kent
> to 1st. Either way Lugo will play, and probably hit 2nd. But, if
> Ramirez could net you Tejada, then that is the better deal for the
> future years, as well as this year.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 4:11 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: hanley/lugo
good call on kent playing third....i forgot he played there once upon a
time...let me do some more thinking. tracy has offered me tejada for
hanley straight up...which is just really hard to turn down.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 4:18 pm
To jason.laukaitis@wamu.net
Subject potential trades
Hey Jason...
are you a part of the fantasy baseball world lately? I've noticed your
roster not changing much lately ;) anyhow, if you want to deal your
closers let me know asap...

Andy

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, July 31, 2006 4:26 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: hanley/lugo
for just julio and gonzalez what would you want? you want picks?
pitching prospects hamels or sowers? both were waiver claims this year...


From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:34 am
To Tracy Johnson
Subject Re: trade
i assume that you're not going to keep sexson, so that leaves manny,
wagner and halladay. of those 4 who would you be willing to deal? i'll
keep glaus in mind, but i may have a different deal in the works for
Hanley Ramirez that might give me more help to finish out this year, yet
not as much keeper value help.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:35 am
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: oswalt
are you interested in hanley?

Michael Gintz wrote:
I think you should do a Hanley/Tejada deal if you can get it done. I
> think that is fair, but it was the throw-ins of Glaus/Lackey that
> seemed to tip the deal (I didn't get around to voting on it, so I
don't know who did all of the voting)...
Are you and the kids coming over with Erin tonight, or just her?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 1, 2006 12:22 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: hanley/lugo
we all are coming over, so prepare ;)

and tracy has now, after looking at his keepers and draft picks for the
100th time, decided that he wants to keep tejada, but will do a glaus
for hanley...but i'm not so sure about that, although glaus does have ss
eligibility.

what do you think about dealing your two closers for a pitching prospect?

Ryan Hanley wrote:
> Not anymore, because I got Orlando Cabrera who I drafted pretty late
> who I'm thinking about keeping at this point and I have Brandon Wood
> in my minor league spot who supposedly will be a starter next year.
> I'm looking pretty good at middle infield now

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 1, 2006 12:23 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: oswalt
right on...

are you interested in jones?

Ryan Hanley wrote:

> I might be in a little while, I kind of want to "Stand Pat" until
> closer to the deadline now that I've made a couple of deals..

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 1, 2006 12:41 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: oswalt
i'd be willing to work a jones for oswalt deal if you want...if you
don't make any more trades who are you inclined to keep, oswalt or berkman?





From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 1, 2006 12:54 pm
To Tracy Johnson
Subject Re: trade
how about Webb, what's your plan with him? is available?


Tracy wrote:
webb is a keeper too.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:57 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: pitchers

just do your best to keep my pitchers active, but if you could a tiny
bit of research to avoid bad matchups i'd appreciate it. call my cell if
you have any questions.

thanks again
andy

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, August 9, 2006 5:37 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject i'm back
thanks for looking over my team...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:37 am
To Ryan Hanley
Subject dude, wtf?
why the hell did you trade oswalt and gordon? i was going to try and
put together a package for you...man at least let me know next time we're
working on something that you've got a deal almost finalized and i'd try
to top it. didn't we just talk like yesterday? all i can say is,
garbage water.




Morten wrote:
baller, what would it take for you to trade ichiro? mr.smack


From: "Andrew Albaugh"
To: evensemb@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ichiro
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:30:23 -0700
ichiro is a possibility....i'd be more inclined to trade him over the
offseason as opposed to before the deadline, so if you're interested in him
for the stretch run probably not, but if you want him as a keeper for next
year we may be able to work something out before next year starts.

Morten wrote:
only interested for the stretch run.
k-rod?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:33 am
To Michael Gintz
Subject your hanley proposal
i've got a new offer into tracy, but if that falls through i think i'll
take you up on your previous offer if it is still an option.

Michael Gintz wrote:
> I've got a trade on the table (which will likely go through) that
> includes Gonzalez, but Rivera and Julio are both available. They are
> both part of a trade package for a high pick next year, but I would
> probably rather do a pick for a known quantity rather than a draft
> pick. If it takes Tracy all weekend (as he indicated), I will probably
> have moved the closers by then...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:11 am
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: your hanley proposal
so what do you want? are you saying you still want hanley or you
don't? what's the gonzalez deal involve?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:45 am
To Ryan Hanley
Subject smoltz and otsuka
can we work something out?

Michael Gintz wrote:
>The big trade will go down tonight. That leaves Julio and Rivera. I have
>a trade on the table that very well may happen that gives both closers
>and Delgado to one of your competitors for a 6/11 pick swap. Can you
>beat that? Would you drop one of those players out for a slight drop in
>picks (say 8/13 or 6/9)? Is there one of the players that you would give
>a good amount for individually.
>
>Those are the parameters, I'll let you decide if you want to proceed in
>your discussions with me.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:25 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
proceed, we shall.

you're dealing which two with delgado? julio and rivera? or julio and
gonzalez? or is the big trade you referenced involving gonzalez and
other entities?

Michael Gintz wrote:
>Gonzalez is gone with the other trade. Rivera and Julio are both
>available for the taking. I am working with several owners at once (damn
>this is fun), so let me know how you would like to package the players
>(closers only, one player only, the whole kit-n-kaboodle)...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:41 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
so right now you have julio,rivera and delgado for an 6/8? i am
interested in 1, both, or all three. let me do some thinking and
analyzing...i'll have a bunch of 1b if i deal for delgado.

Michael Gintz wrote:
>The three are on the table for a 6/11 at this point.
From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:11 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
it is looking like delgado just won't fit... have you thought about
moving Randy? i'd give you an 8/13 for RJ, Julio and Rivera.

Ryan Hanley wrote:
> Definitely. How about an 8th for 10th upgrade?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:13 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
i may be trading my 8th already can we do it for an 9/11?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:15 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
did you have any interest in milledge or shealy?

Michael Gintz wrote:
>I will certainly consider that. We can kibbutz more tomorrow on that.
>
>The closers have interest from several teams. Delgado's interest is down
>to two teams, as is Randy at this point. Delgado alone can probably get
>something a little better than RJ alone right now.
>
>Whoever gets the closer pack will not only move themselves up, but keep
>the other teams away from a big advance.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:23 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
don't spin your mumbo jumbo with me...i see what you're doing ;)
i would definitely think delgado would command more than rj at this
point....anyhow, keep me in the loop, and if you need to fill my head
with lies to make me sweeten the deal, feel free.

Michael Gintz wrote:
>I have an offer (that has been talked about a lot but not accepted) for
>Delgado/Rivera/Julio for a 6/11. You are offering an 8/13 to take out
>Delgado and put in RJ. Could I get a 6/13 for a 8/11 for Delgado. What
>is that even worth?
>
>Obviously, I'm not keeping either Randy or Delgado. That being said, I
>would rather have a 6/11 over an 8/13. But, if I can move Delgado for
>more than I can get for RJ (and have the ability to move the remaining
>one alone), then I would rather do your deal and dump Delgado elsewhere,
>since I would get more.
>
>Does that make sense. Still mumbo jumbo, but it makes sense in my
>mind...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:33 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
yes it makes sense....anyhow, just keep in mind that i want rj, rivera
and julio (actually, i don't really want julio, i hate julio, i just
need him). work out whatever you're working out on the other side and
let me know so i can maybe give you something better.

Ryan Hanley wrote:
> No, I don't have an interest in those two guys. A ninth round pick is
> a little low, Smoltz has been really good this year.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:56 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
ok, well let's figure something out...DO NOT TRADE THEM!! (just
kidding) willing to include izzy as well?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:57 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
do you have any interest in milledge?

Ryan Hanley wrote:
> If I was to throw in Izzy as well I'd probably need a sixth rounder.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:50 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
i don't have a sixth to give, but i've got a 7th...what's one round
among old GM champs? we could a 7/11...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:21 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
what the hell is that crap you pulled with woodhouse? you trying to
make this difficult on me to win this year? yikes...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Hey,
>
>Just wanted to let you know that I'll be gone all day
>today. I'll try to check my email from my parents once
>or twice, but I won't have good access.
>
>Feel free to call my cell to talk trade though.
>
>Chris

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 10:42 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
just to keep you filled in on my situation....
i will probably get a starter and closer from hanley for picks, and
perhaps a starter and closer from gintz for picks, and i'm hoping that i
can get glaus for hanley ramirez (tracy offered that a couple weeks ago,
but he's so up and down with his decisions i have no idea what to
think). so i will probably not want to trade for sheets that includes a
high pick, and if hanley doesn't get traded to tracy it won't be decided
until he decides what he's doing with his team later early next week.
and i'm going to hold on to cole hamels right now, he's looking strong
and may be worth keeping. so, if you want to deal sheets to mort feel
free, or wait around to see if hanley is available after tracy figures
our what's going on. please don't share my potential closer aquisitions
with craig as i believe he's also trying to get closers from gintz and
make a run in the saves cat.

as a side note, do you have any interest in milledge?

Michael Gintz wrote:
> Not at this point...I will be keeping 3 OF's as my top 3...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 10:47 am
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
i'm willing to return a lower pick to you if need be...8/12. any chance
we can get something worked out today? i'm going to be out running
errands, etc, this afternoon/evening so i'll won't be online, but you
can call me if things get dicey. when's rj's next start? can we get
this completed before that?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 11:09 am
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
what do you think about 7th for 11th round?

Michael Gintz wrote:
>Yesterday, the offer was 8/13 for Rivera, Julio and RJ. Has that dropped
>to 8/12? Were you thinking about dropping someone out to make that an
>8/12, or has the offer decreased?
>
>Randy pitched Wednesday, so a deal today should get him to you Sunday,
>to pitch again on Monday.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 11:25 am
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
big baller is sweetening the deal, i'm feeling like the ol' ball club
needs a kick in the ass, so i want to get this done today. so yes, 8/12
for the trio. sign on the dotted line....

Michael Gintz wrote:
>Let me get this straight.
>
>Yesterday, you would give me an 8, and I would give you a 13.
>
>Now, you would give me an 8, and I would give you a 12.
>
>How is the deal being sweetened?
>
>What about throwing in the Lugo/Hanley component and reducing the picks
>to a 10/12?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 11:35 am
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
dude..i need some more coffee...i meant 8/14...my bad. i'm trying to
work out something with tracy for hanley once he decides that he's not
going anywhere and makes some trades.
8/14 sounds more than fair...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 12:01 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
ok....one more thing...i just figured out i may be able to get a couple
of closers from hanley (from the real hanley, not for hanley) so, that
would give me 3 of my own plus 2 of his, plus 2 of yours, that's like 7
closers...if that's the case i'm not sure i need or want julio. does a
round lower sound fair if that's the deal? rj and rivera for a 9/14?
i'll have to get things confirmed with hanley but i think 6 closers
would suffice for the stretch run.

Ryan Hanley wrote:
> A seventh rounder isn't high enough for all three players. If it were
> Izzy and Smoltz only I'd probably do a 7 for 10 deal.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 1:28 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
so you're saying that oswalt and gordon are worth an 6/8, but izzy and
smoltz worth a 7/10? i don't agree with that...oswalt in my opinion is
better than smoltz, they're ranked very close to eachother on many of
the sites, and gordon is clearly better than izzy, so that logic in my
mind just doesn't make sense. i think a 7/11 or a 7/12 if you want is
fair for all three. what are you going to get for the other closer if
you don't include him? you might as well get something for him....your
original offering of 8/10 for smoltz and otsuka is much more on the
level than a 7/10 for izzy. i don't have a 6th round to give, i have a
7th, i probably won't have an 8th by the end of today due to another
deal. so that leaves us with a 7th round offer. i'll reduce my return
pick to 12, does that sound good ? by including the additional closer
you are getting a pick one round earlier and giving up a pick 2 rounds
later than by not including the second closer. that seems more than
fair in my mind. i'm not trying to be a hard ass, i'm just looking at
the landscape of the other trades lately and trying to do what makes the
most sense. let me know what you think....

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 1:36 pm
To Tracy Johnson
Subject sjjl trades
Hi Tracy,
I'm just letting you know that I'm still interested in the Hanley
Ramirez for Glaus deal that you suggested a week or so ago. So just let
me know what you're thinking as we get closer to the trade deadline.

thanks,
Andy

Michael Gintz wrote:

>I am leaning towards making your deal right now. And, if the Hanley
>thing doesn't work out with Tracy, I would still shave the picks to
>10/12 if we did a Hanley/Lugo swap (if you wanted to get better picks
>for next year).
>
>I hope you and Woodhouse have a race to the finish. My guess is that
>Woodhouse won't make many more moves, and that you will get several
>things done to get 1st. But, we'll see down the stretch.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 2:47 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
ok...help me out here, the real hanley is bogging us down...isn't a 7/12
trade fair for smoltz, otsuka and izzy? his initial offer was 8/10 for
smoltz and otsuka...but wants a 6th (which i don't have) for all three.
the way things have been going with trades 7/12 seems fair. the
baller/ratpack deal of 8/13(14) for a lesser starter and a lesser second
closer would validate this. if he's emailing you asking for advice or
anything, talk some sense into him.

by the way, your deal with woodhouse is fair enough to me...it seems
like a hell of a lot to get for one guy, but the one guy is really,
really good. and if the deal was done with jason, or chris or bbp, no
one would be pissing and moaning, sometimes the rich get richer. so
i've got your back if there's fisticuffs.

Ryan Hanley wrote:

> I realized later, after initial discussions, Otsuka will be a 15th
> rounder next year. That's why a 7th rounder seems low to me for all
> three players.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 2:51 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
are you keeping him? regardless, it's a fair offer in my mind. do you
want someone like sowers that you can keep for next year? i'm just
trying to see if there's a way we can make it work...

Michael Gintz wrote:
>I think there would be the same problem if the deal was with Jason, but
>I get your point. Would you have done the deal for Beltran and a pick (I
>feel that Vlad is a slightly better keeper than Beltran)? The fact is,
>it hurts the offense enough to lose a star, so it won't be as big of a
>boost to him as people think.
>
>I was just on the phone with Hanley, and we both got emails from Mort.
>The league activity is high. Of course, I don't want him to make the
>deal with you because I want you to do the deal with me. :) He told me
>it was a 7/11, but it is about the same either way. His thought is that
>Otsuka is a keeper (at a #15 pick), so he would get the #80 player and
>an ok player at #15, and give up a #125 player and a closer (Otsuka).
>With Otsuka's value next year likely a #11 round pick (if the closer run
>happens like it did this year), then he would have trouble getting a
>closer at 15.
>
>Crap. I'm confusing myself now.
>
>How about the 9/14 for Randy and Rivera? Rivera is actually a decent
>keeper idea as a #4 pick for next year (he was my #6 guy this year).

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 3:08 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
i see what you're saying...
i want to do both deals, but i don't have a 6th, you'll get my 8th (i'm
thinking i want/need julio) so that leaves hanley with the 7th. i have
a 5th round, but there's no way it's worth a 5th.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 3:15 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
i'm offline for a while, until later tonight. keep me posted on my cell
if anything develops. at the least lets get something offered and
accepted for rj tonight.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 3:20 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
i'm offline for a while, i'll be back on later tonight. give me a call
on my cell if you come up with any other scenarios. we'll come up with
something, we just have to figure it out :)
later

Michael Gintz wrote:
>Seven closers may be overkill, so it may make more sense to get two from
>one of us and one from the other. My deal is flexible (8/14 or 9/14),
>but I don't know how Hanley wants to work with his. Maybe you drop
>Otsuka out of his deal and make it a 7/10 with him.
>
>Otsuka is a likely closer next year, with a #15 value. Julio is a
>possible closer, with a #15 value. I'll let you decide.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 3:23 pm
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
good point...i'll keep discussing with him, but it looks like i won't be
able to get both from him for a 7th. so let's do the 8/14...


From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 11, 2006 3:25 pm
To Ryan Hanley
Subject Re: smoltz and otsuka
sounds like you want to keep otsuka, so let's do izzy and smoltz for a
7/9. i think it's probably worth an 8/10, but it looks like my 8th is
going to gintz.

Chris Coovert wrote:
>No interest in Millidge
>
>Based on what you've told me, I don't really see us
>getting anything done unless you don't trade Ramirez
>to Tracy. Basically, Ramirez, Hamels and maybe Kinsler
>are the only three guys I would want.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:08 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
i know you're interested in hanley...but putting that aside, should i
accept the hanley for glaus offer? i'm thinking i might...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:10 am
To Michael Gintz
Subject Re: golf
i know you're interested in hanley, but should i accept the glaus/hanley
deal from tracy? i'm thinking i might...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>I guess it depends on if you need the power Glaus
>could give you. I'll be honest, I'm luke warm on
>Ramirez. I think he will steal bases but I'm not sure
>he's going to hit for much average in the future. But
>Glaus is semi-risky too just becuase of the injuries.
>If you think it puts you over the top this year, I
>think you do it.
>
>Do you still want Anderson btw? He's actually hitting
>pretty well lately.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:19 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
let's wait and see what Anderson's back ends up looking like tomorrow...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:11 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
i don't have much left to offer, but if we can work something out for
sheets or woody let me know. radke is a ticking time bomb and i'd rather
not have to piece together a 6th starter for the stretch run if i don't
have to. another thing, are you able to look over my team for a few
days? erin and i are heading out for a weekend without the kids and i
doubt i'll have interenet access. the only problem i can see at this
point is saturday, i have 4 starters going and not nearly enough spots
with all of my closers. so, if you could make sure that if a closer
goes multiple innings, or has gone multiple days in a row and it looks
like he would definitely not pitch to rotate him out (that goes for
rincon and shields as well). thanks, and let me know if you're not able
to and i'll find someone else...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>I can watch your team. Let me look at some stuff and
>see what I can figure out for a trade offer.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:33 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
something to think about....my earliest available round if i keep all of
my high guys is round 9. i had a round 5, but i'll probably keep
Rivera. i have kinsler, as you know, also if you want to take a flier
on Barfield he's worth a 22nd round pick next year. if i don't trade
him i may just keep him, because if he's solid next year, 2008 he'd be a
steal at round 19. i'd be interested in getting sheets/woody and anderson.

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Am I correct in assuming that you don't want to trade
>Hamels for Sheets and Williams?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:45 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
i'm thinking so at this point...i'm liking what i'm seeing from him and
will most likely keep him...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Ok, well, I would give you both pitchers and Anderson
>for Hamels.
>
>So Barfield was a 26th roudner last year? That would
>make him a 22nd right? Or does it stay at 3 rounds all
>the way to the bottom...I can never remember the
>rules.
>
>Anyway, I would do Woody and Iguchi for Barfield.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:06 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
he was a 26th, so he's now a 22nd, 2008 he'll be an 18th. Keepers in
rounds 1-10 move up 2, 11-20 move up 3, 21+ move up 4. let me re-look
at woody's past starts and his upcoming opponents and get back to you.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:49 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
so here's what i think...after looking at things, Woody's not been all
that hot as of late... feel free to reject this or accept, but it looks
like the best i can offer is barfield, shealy, a 9th, for sheets and
anderson and something like your 20th. if you can get more for sheets,
i completely understand, if it comes down to the wire and you want to
get something for him, pull the trigger. if you are absolutely sure you
do not want to make that deal, i would like to a shealy/anderson deal
that includes something like a 17/23 swap. anderson's an injury risk,
and i really don't think he's worth a whole lot, so a late round swap
sounds adequate. let me know what you think...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Hey,
>
>Right now your offer for Sheets is the best as of now,
>although both House and morten have been inquiring.
>I'm just trying to decide whether to make it go down
>or not. Part of me wants to just hang on to the guy.
>
>If I don't sent Sheets, I'll do the Anderson trade for
>sure. Do I have permission to make either of them go
>down once you are out of town?
>
>Chris

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:56 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
yes, unless shealy begins to tear it up, or GA gets injured...

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Ok...I'm not sure I know what tear it up means though.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Friday, August 18, 2006 10:27 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
we're leaving shortly, so just call me on my cell phone before you make
a deal and let me know what shealy did today and tomorrow...
thanks again...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, August 21, 2006 10:41 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
i've got rounds 18-21 open...and 23-28. what do you have?
Chris Coovert wrote:
>I have 21-24 and 26-28 (assuming we make minor
>leaguers 25th rounders, I'm not sure if that has
>compeltely been decided.
>
>How about your 18th for my 24th?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, August 21, 2006 11:37 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
let's do 19, i may be keeping a guy that fits into the 18th, and if i
do, then you'd end up with my 14th, which i don't really want to happen.

Chris Coovert wrote:
>How many guys are you keeping? It seems like you've
>told me about 15 spots.
>
>That's fine though.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, August 21, 2006 11:54 am
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
i've got a lot on my list...i'm just leaving my options open and would
rather not get stuck, that's all.

Chris Coovert wrote:
>Intersting...I have 5 definite, 1 probable and 2 or 3
>maybe/longshots. The key for me is if one free agent
>ends up being good enough to keep, the next one would
>only cost an 18th is I keep Nick Johnson at 16 and
>Rios at 17...so that could open up some possibilities.
>But barring a middle reliever becoming a closer or
>Rick Hill really putting it together over his last few
>starts, I doubt I have more than one free agent that
>is even worth considering.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, August 21, 2006 12:33 pm
To Chris Coovert
Subject Re: today
yeah...i've just got to sit down and actually try and figure where these
would be drafted if i didn't keep him...obviously if a FA is projected
to go in the 20th round i won't keep him. i'm also entertaining the
idea of keeping overbay, he'd cost me a 17th next year, and he's really
putting together a good season...my FA i'm debating are hamels and
saito...then i've got a bunch in the rounds 1-7 that i need to make
decisions on....jones, ichiro, beltran, howard, bj, nathan, rivera,
glaus, schilling....etc., tough problem to have, i know, wah, wah,
wah.... anyhow, i've got lots of options at this point..

Hanley, Ryan wrote:
>How did you like Smoltz's start for you yesterday? He was my best
>pitcher this year.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:02 am
To "Hanley, Ryan"
Subject Re: Are you back?
very nice....it's an uphill battle against woodhouse, but hopefully his
bats will cool down here at some point.

Sent Monday, September 18, 2006
Christian Anderson wrote:
> I think I'm in. I'll check with The Boss.
>
> My prediction for you, Mr. Albaugh:
>
> 11:00 - shows up at the house
> 11:00-11:10 - brags about being 2 & 0 in fantasy football, calls us
> all jackasses
> 11:10-11:30 - chugs 3 tall cans of beer, used to guard his chip stack
> 11:30-11:45 - goes all in every other hand, either getting first
> place or is the first one out.

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, September 18, 2006 10:06 am
To Christian Anderson
Cc CoovertC@Peninsula.wednet.edu , cooverca@plu.edu , broycepowell@yahoo.com , nattylight111@yahoo.com , MGintz@GintzGroup.com , Jonesy1325@hotmail.com
Subject Re: this weekend
unlike my football team, but much like my baseball team, my poker game
is hit or miss....lately mostly a miss...but the sweet tallboys are
always a hit.

Sent Monday, September 18, 2006
Coovert, Christopher A. wrote:
>You know...I would think any team with the two top MVP candidates in the
>NL should be able to win its fantasy league...

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Monday, September 18, 2006 1:31 pm
To "Coovert, Christopher A."
Cc Christian Anderson , cooverca@plu.edu , broycepowell@yahoo.com , nattylight111@yahoo.com , MGintz@GintzGroup.com , Jonesy1325@hotmail.com
Subject Re: this weekend *warning:whining included*
ya know....crap like that just isn't warranted. don't count out baller
just yet, miracles do happen. it doesn't help that every one of my
deals has all but backfired on me.

edmonds and harang for doug davis and valverde- davis got me some ks,
but harang ended up to be much more valuable, and valverde is a sheer
gut wrenching flaming sack of crap
glaus for hanley - glaus has just gone in the tank, and hanley's
outproduced him across the board
aquiring smoltz and izzy- izzy is an asshole, and smoltz is on and off,
not what i needed
rj and rivera and julio- rivera hasn't pitched in sept, and rj is on and
off, just what i expected...and i should have expected the julio
collapse, as all arizona closers i touch crap all over themselves.
iguchi and anderson for shealy and someone else, this one has worked out
ok, although shealy's been damn hot. and i should have pulled the
trigger for sheets but didn't.
hanlo gives me the verbal commit on dealing me oswalt, he ends up
dealing him elsewhere and i go for smoltz, oswalt's been solid
overall in my mind, the deals i've made have just sucked..

blech...oh well, there's still hope. so you can quit with the pot
shots, coovert.


From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:37 am
To "Christian Anderson"
Subject Re: this weekend
hey ca...
did you see the post i made on sjjl? is morten's response accurate.
anything you accrue over the 1800 innings in one day still counts
towards your stats?

From Andrew Albaugh
Sent Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:45 am
To "Christian Anderson"
Subject Re: this weekend
well, i guess we'll see...as it could very well come down to those
last innings pitched for wins. talk about things tightening up, this
is really going to be close...there may even be a tie.











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